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« on: May 19, 2006, 10:25:58 AM »

In this thread, I'm going to offer some practice tips for soloing over progressions.

There will be rhythm guitar tracks.  With solos over them, building in complexity from basic chord tones to the farther overtones.  Each will be accompanied by instructions on how to train the ear to improvise such leads in realtime.
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2006, 02:32:00 PM »

OK... here we go....

First, I took a very typical C major chord progression.  This way all note choices are natural (for now).  The chords are Cmaj Amin Fmaj Gmaj - can't go wrong.  Here's the backing track: http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/note_choices/example01/backing_track_loop.mp3

Now, we begin soloing over it.  First thing to remember is, the notes of the chord will always work.  In other words, over Cmaj you can always play C, E, G; over Fmaj you can always play F, A, C; etc.

First example: using only the root of each chord, for the whole measure.  Sounds like this: http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/note_choices/example01/roots_only.mp3

Second example: using root and 5th of each chord, each for half a measure (more or less).  You can play either note first - generally it's a good idea to practice looking for the closest-available chord tone.  So, if you played C, G over the Cmaj chord, you may want to slide up two frets to the A, and E down; from E to F is just one half step; etc.  Look for the nearest available when you can; skip around every now and then.  Sounds like this (or better): http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/note_choices/example01/roots_and_5ths.mp3

Third example: same idea, only this time using just the root and 3rd.  http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/note_choices/example01/roots_and_3rds.mp3

Now we'll begin using all three notes of each triad, but still only using two notes per measure.  In other words, for each chord, you'll have to choose which two out of the three you're going to play.  Practice looking for the nearest note, try to hold over one note from the next chord when possible (more on this later), and of course skip around every now and then.  Here's my rendition: http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/note_choices/example01/roots_3rds_5ths.mp3

Starting to get a bit more complex!  Next example is beginning to add 7ths notes when convenient (in other words, begin removing the limitations once you get the idea).  http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/note_choices/example01/roots_3rds_5ths_7ths.mp3

Eventually, you'll get to the point where you can use any note in the scale.  Normally, you play the notes that are not in the chord briefly, and dwell a bit longer on the chord tones.  However, you'll hear me breaking this rule everywhere.  Also, notice that I threw in some non-scale "blue" notes, an F# and an Eb, here and there.  This is borrowing from the parallel minor pentatonic scale - always a resort for soloing.  http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/note_choices/example01/entire_scale.mp3

Some more progressions (as well as minor progressions) coming soon.


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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2006, 03:45:22 PM »

Iliace

Could you please continue with this lesson.

I have been practicing..

Here is my recital.  Screwed up a few notes and I got off on my timing a bit it one part.  I know.  But I am LEARNING.... Crazy Crazy Crazy

Thanks Wolfgrim
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2006, 09:43:00 AM »

Wolf - I saw your request.  Let me get my thoughts together here.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2006, 09:44:23 AM »

Wolf - I saw your request.  Let me get my thoughts together here.


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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2006, 09:45:07 AM »

Wolf - I saw your request.  Let me get my thoughts together here.


It's be more fun if you 300m'ed it.

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2006, 09:54:23 AM »

Wolf - I saw your request.  Let me get my thoughts together here.


 :banghead:The most frustrating aspect of this is that I KNOW the scale, but deciding on the fly where to go within the scale can from time to time be infurating.  Scream I will be playing along and everything is just fine then I go blank. Then I rush to catch up to the music and that leads to a royal train crash.  I stop for a second then pick it up again and just try to play it off.  Hmmm

I am getting it, but it is taking FAR longer then I imagined it would.

Thanks a bunch it is helping.  Very Happy More than you realize.

Is there anywhere I can get some oldie 50's simple style backtracks to try and play to. I have pretty much worn this one completely out.

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2006, 09:58:40 AM »

I think this is where jamming helps the most.  Note choices aren't a matter of reading about where you should go.  Knowing the scales gives you the framework, choosing the notes within is something that's in your head.  Using jam tracks will let you experiment freely.  It's a great exercise tool for improvising.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2006, 10:05:06 AM »

I am just concerned that I don't sound too scalish. I have heard great guitarist do some amazing stuff, but is sounds more like they are running scales rather then playing a melody. If I can accomplish just that much I would be pretty happy.

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2006, 10:05:13 AM »

I can give you examples over any track.  Or do you want me to put one together?
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2006, 10:23:29 AM »

I can give you examples over any track.  Or do you want me to put one together?


That would be fantastic.  I play mostly by ear.  If I can hear it chance are FAR greater that I can pick it up and learn it.

Thanks a bunch.

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2006, 11:23:44 AM »

I am just concerned that I don't sound too scalish. I have heard great guitarist do some amazing stuff, but is sounds more like they are running scales rather then playing a melody. If I can accomplish just that much I would be pretty happy.

Wolfgrim


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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2006, 11:42:49 AM »


"Dimeola"???? Laughing Laughing Laughing

 Hmmm

Sorry Tal I am not formilar with "Dimeola"??

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2006, 12:34:24 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2006, 01:03:45 PM »

That's the one!!!

As soon as I saw him I put the name to the face.

Yeah I DON'T want to sound like him Sad

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